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Good Wine, Glad Hearts

November 17, 2010

Text: Psalm 104:14-15
An awesome message by Mark Driscoll on alcohol and the bible. Very entertaining and insightful.

Historically, God’s people have greatly enjoyed alcohol. Throughout the last century, however, Christians have watered down their beer as well as their doctrine. Mark Driscoll speaks on a theology of alcohol.

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Pastor Mark Driscoll | March 24, 2002 | 01hr:12mn

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  1. Larry permalink
    November 19, 2010 10:53 am

    Entertaining yes, instructive no! Let’s get real folks, there are simply too many people (Christian and non-Christian) that drink too much, get behind the wheel and drive under the influence. That wasn’t a problem in Calvin’s day, but it is a problem in our time. The more we learn about alcohol, the more we understand how alcohol impairs judgment, slows reaction time and removes inhibitions. If Mark like to drink, that’s his business, but I would not encourage others to drink.

    • philippians1v21 permalink*
      November 19, 2010 4:31 pm

      Thanks for your comment. However, I am forced to wonder if you listened to the whole message, since Mark actually address the very points you make here toward the end. He makes some very valid and poignant points about what you say in your comment.

      You don’t think people got drunk and abused alcohol in Calvin’s day? What an odd comment. Alcohol abuse is certainly a problem in all times, including when the scriptures were written. That is why there are so many commands and warnings in the bible not to to get drunk…because people were. Yet, it is interesting that neither Jesus, nor His disciples, nor Paul go as far as you do (even in a context where people were abusing alcohol heavily). You don’t think the Son of God knew as much as you do now about the “evils of alcohol”? You think Jesus’ instruction and example was somehow insufficient and lacking because He didn’t know what you know? Really? He is God. I don’t think you really know better. You are making the same argument that Mark talked about where the guy says, “maybe Jesus shouldn’t have drank”. That’s really bizarre to me.

      Your argument just doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny. Let’s take your same argument and apply it to something else…

      Let’s get real, there are simply too many people (Christians and non-Christians) that eat way too much, get fat, and have diabetes. The more we learn about food the more we know that if you eat too much it has terrible effects on your health. If Mark wants to eat, that’s his business, but I would not encourage others to eat.

      Sounds ludicrous…because it is. The glaringly obvious flaw here is that eating food doesn’t mean you are abusing food. It is certainly possible to eat in a way that glorifies God, right? Yes, it is true that many abuse food, but that doesn’t mean we abolish food. No, the problem isn’t the food. It is us. It is our tendency to worship the creation and not the creator. As Paul says, “Their God is their stomachs”. Let’s address the real problem, the root issue. We always tend to want to focus on the external and not the internal. It is easier. Like the Pharisees, we want to wash the outside of the glass so it’s nice and shiny, but the inside remains filthy. The truth is we don’t have “food problems” or “alcohol problems”. We have a worship problem.

      Whether or not you would encourage others to drink or not isn’t the issue here. It is whether they have the freedom in Christ to do so. You come across in your comment as judgmental and legalistic. Will you allow your Christians brothers whose faith isn’t as week on this issue as yours to have the freedom granted them in Christ? Or, are you going to stand in judgment, calling balls and strikes on others, and adding your own rules that aren’t in the bible?

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